……then why are people pushing to get them all out of here? We know that they are here illegally, but when the only crime most commit is living here illegally, wouldn’t it hurt us more to deport them during these bad times? and aren’t they doing the jobs most of you wouldn’t do?
http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/storage/paper997/news/2007/04/10/Opinions/Dollars.And.Sense.Economy.Native.Workers.Benefit.From.Immigrant.Work-2831841.shtml
Dollars and sense: Economy, native workers benefit from immigrant work
Until recently, saying that immigrants are “doing jobs Americans are not doing” amounted to little more than political rhetoric. But now, the real facts are beginning to surface, courtesy of some unusual suspects – a California economist and the Internal Revenue Service.
In late February, Dr. Giovanni Peri, a University of California, Davis, economist, published a report that cuts against the typical immigration grain. By analyzing census data in California (home to 30 percent of foreign-born workers in the U.S.), Peri concluded that immigrants actually boost the wages of native workers.
Essentially, Peri found that immigrants complement (rather than replace) native workers. Because most immigrants in California are unskilled laborers without a high school diploma, they end up filling in the gaps in California’s labor market, where most native workers have more than a high school diploma but less than a doctorate degree.
“In nontechnical terms,” Dr. Peri writes, “the increased supply of migrants is likely to put native workers in jobs where they perform supervisory, managerial, training, and in general interactive and coordinating tasks.” Thus, with native workers supervising immigrants, Peri estimates that native workers actually experience an average wage boost of 4 percent.
It’s already known that illegal immigrants inject some $7 billion a year into the Social Security trust, but now the IRS is estimating that ITIN filers have contributed $50 billion.
April 28, 2010 at 9:32 pm
That is a myth created by polotitians that the economy and native workers benefit from illegal immigrants.
Polotitians are waiting in joyful hope that illegal immagrants will get to vote for them someday.
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April 28, 2010 at 10:06 pm
But we don’t benefit. Well, I guess those that love those illegals benefit by having them here with them but that is about it. Those illegals will not continue to work for little pay nor would it even be legal anymore for employers to pay them so little if/when they become citizens. So, those “oh so hard working illegals” won’t be so hard working anymore when they get large chunks taken out of their checks like U.S. citizens do.
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April 28, 2010 at 10:29 pm
The only myth is that “illegals do the jobs that most Americans won’t”
Who did those jobs before we were INVADED by ILLEGALS?????? American Citizens did thank you very much!!!
Americans will not do those jobs for the wages that illegals get because unlike most illegals who get paid under the table, Americans have TAXES, Social Security and other benefits deducted from their paychecks, causing the net pay to be less!
Once again your post is MISLEADING. “Essentially, Peri found that immigrants complement (rather than replace) native workers.” I don’t see ILLEGAL immigrants in that sentence, do you???
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April 28, 2010 at 10:45 pm
i am with sharon
also the ones who hire illegals do so paying very cheap labour and pay no fringe benefits,pay little taxes thus creating a loop in the econimy.aslo alienating USA citizens from these jobs.
so yes illegals should NOT be in america but “HIRE RERS” should pay REAL fines AND DO real TIME!
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April 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm
That report came out in 2004! And it was proven wrong! Plus you forgot the part about the majority of workers lost money. Only a small minority gained anything according to the report!
That $50 billion is over 8 years or $6.25 billion a year(you forgot to mention that fact too!)
Now $7 billion + $6.25 billion = $13.25 billion
Cost to educate illegal alien children alone is estimated to be at least $35 billion. What part of this are you having trouble with? If they use more money than they put in it is NOT a good thing!
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April 29, 2010 at 12:22 am
I believe we can all agree that California has the largest illegal population,,, right? OK, Last I heard, they’re broke, schools are over burdened, and hospitals are closing down. How many, when filing their state income tax, got an IOU instead of a refund? The only ones benefiting from an illegal population are the companies that hire them, and the illegals themselves. 52% of all beneficiaries of welfare, according to the FBI are illegal aliens. Where in California is the proof that substantiates your inaccurate standing?
Edit: last night Pres. Obama admited that illegals hold down wages.
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April 29, 2010 at 12:37 am
NOBODY benefits from illegal aliens. And the ‘natives’ and the economy pay the taxes that feed billions of dollars of welfare. And we are stuck on people who desperately try and make a sow’s ear a silk purse. On, and on, and on, and on…….. and it IS a never ending song of hate for the American People. And while that continues, this also is recreated and in direct proporportion to the size of the illegal aliens community. And that community, by the way, is still growing in the Sancturay City called Los Angles, CA. a.k.a. ‘nightmare city’.
What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
http://www.johnrocker.net/zhl_aliensvacated.htm
http://www.rense.com/general75/inva.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/boone/illegal_aliens/2008/08/11/120852.html
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty309.htm
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April 29, 2010 at 1:12 am
no they are taking jobs many need and want. most commit more than the crime of being here or they would not be working these jobs. how are they paying into social security if they are not committing any more crimes, whose social security numbers are being used. how is this good for the economy, now they are stopping the ITIN numbers, how many more will be committing fraud with stolen numbers.
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April 29, 2010 at 1:46 am
To answer the Doing the jobs we wont do. I say you are ignorant and that is propaganda put forth by the proillegals such as yourself. Before they were here who did these jobs? Santa Clause? The Easter bunny? Were they the ones hanging drywall and cutting lawns? You never put a link to the sites that tell how much the country pays out in monies for the health care they get for free at the hospitals because they use it as primary health care. How about the taxes the guys outside of the home depots working for cash dont pay? You constantly post these questions with your selfserving links. Lets face it They are here illegaly. Knowingly turning a blind eye is ignorant. Do we let the pediphile shop at the candy store with the children because he has money? NO!! This is exactly the same. EXACTLY!!
You can find more on this at http://www.numbersusa.com
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April 29, 2010 at 2:07 am
Really – the economy is thriving? That’s news to me.
No, any American will do any job for a living wage – who do you think used to do these jobs? And what an insult to these workers – you are basically saying all they are good for are crappy jobs. Use class warfare much, comrade greasy?
They depress wages and cost billions in social programs. That’s why we want them gone, among other reasons.
Yeah – I really trust numbers from a government that can’t tell trillions from quadrillions.
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April 29, 2010 at 2:53 am
our people that should be filling the jobs illegal immigrants are doing are all on welfare or as many liberals call it, “disability” because it pays the same and there is no work involved.
sure they pay $7 billion per year in social security- i think estimates are that there are 10-20 million of them so what is that, like $300 a piece? that isnt very much… and it wont take much for spending on social programs to negate that. if we just legalize them all then they will start drawing from it, and i guarantee you they will be taking out more than they are paying. and thats just one program. if they all get on medicare, medicaid, educational benefits, welfare, unemployment, etc. the cost will be astronomical, and the meager amount they pay in taxes will not come close to covering it, and the government is already running a $1 trillion deficit
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April 29, 2010 at 3:17 am
we need the jobs to help support our goverment
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April 29, 2010 at 4:01 am
Imagine where these kids would be working, and in effect benefiting our economy even better than you and your pro illegal activists claim illegals do. (Which by the way is a myth because they are all under the poverty level of pay, they live together in over crowded conditions saving them money, and they keep very little money here, while sending 3/4 of earnings back home to their own countries)
These kids would be contributing to society, and themselves, making something of themselves if the illegals were not here taking THEIR JOBS. As you can see we have our own set of unskilled laborers without high school diplomas who need those jobs, and would do those jobs. So please stop with the propaganda rhetoric.
The Silent Epidemic
Statistics and Facts About High School Drop out Rates
http://www.silentepidemic.org/epidemic/statistics-facts.htm
The High Cost of High School Dropouts What the Nation Pays for Inadequate High Schools
http://74.6.146.127/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Stastiics+of+high+school+dropouts&fr=yfp-t-101&u=www.all4ed.org/files/archive/publications/HighCost.pdf&w=stastiics+statistics+high+school+dropouts&d=dW2wYkxISt2c&icp=1&.intl=us
You also keep repeating that illegals inject 7 billion a year into the Social Security trust. And now claiming that the IRS says it’s more like 50 billion.
You keep forgetting that in your past links, it stated that legals and illegals contributed to Social Security, but the illegals didn’t make that much of those contributions. I just love how you and your BS articles keep twisting the facts around to make it seem like they are a huge benefit to the U.S.. That we need them so desperately. There are other articles that people, including myself, have matched yours, and including your own articles stating the opposite of what you post.
Let me say this one more time so that you can understand it clearly Tony… Illegals only slightly contribute on a FEDERAL level… But are devastating at the LOCAL, AND STATES LEVELS.
Perhaps in the future, you should direct your efforts towards getting involved in putting U.S. drop outs to work instead of your favored illegals. This would be a much better cause for us anti-illegal/pro law advocates can or would get behind you, and the pro illegals on.
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April 29, 2010 at 4:19 am
The UofA can hardly be called non biased and a student publication to boot. Its hard to swallow that displaced workers are somehow benefiting from foreign competition. Everyone that lives in Tucson knows there are two Tucson’s.
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April 29, 2010 at 4:51 am
we are not benefiting from illegal workers. illegals are benefiting from us.
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April 29, 2010 at 4:58 am
Hit-men and drug dealers also inject money into the economy and their activities are illegal. With your logic we should accept all forms of criminal behavior as long as the gains of that behavior is recirculated into the economy.
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April 29, 2010 at 5:15 am
it’s all ignorance and racism that causes them to push to get all the hard workers our of the US.
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